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Project Soul - A New Announcement is on the way!

  • LightningSakura
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    22:16, August 30, 2016

    Today is a great day for some, and a sad day for others, Soulcalibur: Lost Swords' servers have been officially shut down!

    However, that is not the end of Soulcalibur... Project Soul have confirmed that they are releasing something new! Saying "Please look forward to the next announcement"!!!

    Could this be the long awaited Soulcalibur VI??? Or some new Soul series game altogether? How long will we have to wait? Hopefully not too long!!

    Here are screenshots of the announcements from Project Soul:

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    I'm ready for something new! What are your thoughts? Let me know! :D

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    • Awesome! >w<

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    • Can't wait!!!!

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    • Sow the ppl who bought (or played LS) can't do anything anymore waste of time/money for them....

      But that new Announcement i hope SCVI...

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    • Yup, pretty much. I said that from the start "One day LS will be shut down so people who spend their money are just wasting it".. PS could have at least made it playable offline and released the characters/costumes as DLC.

      Yes! Hopefully it will be, I am excited!! :D

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    • Looks good.

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    • What would you guys think if SCVI was a reboot? Personally I don't like reboots.. I would rather it continue from SCV/LS with the time travel type of path or maybe retconning some stuff in order to bring old characters back.

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      What would you guys think if SCVI was a reboot? Personally I don't like reboots.. I would rather it continue from SCV/LS with the time travel type of path or maybe retconning some stuff in order to bring old characters back.

      Be careful with retconning, or else you could end up rebooting.

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    • Well a retcon usually just changes information established in the past (i.e Sophitia's death) a reboot is usually a whole new story (think Tomb Raider 2013 compared to the PS1 Tomb Raider). So retconning is safe, to me.

      Soulcalibur IV was kind of a retcon too, as it changed the story of how Soul Edge was created.

      Logically -and probably the most pleasing option to fans- would be if they followed on from Lost Swords and used the time travel type explanation for SCVI (the soul swords traveled into Astral Chaos after SCV and spread across all different points of time, bringing all the warriors together).

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      Well a retcon usually just changes information established in the past (i.e Sophitia's death) a reboot is usually a whole new story (think Tomb Raider 2013 compared to the PS1 Tomb Raider). So retconning is safe, to me.

      Soulcalibur IV was kind of a retcon too, as it changed the story of how Soul Edge was created.

      Logically -and probably the most pleasing option to fans- would be if they followed on from Lost Swords and used the time travel type explanation for SCVI (the soul swords traveled into Astral Chaos after SCV and spread across all different points of time, bringing all the warriors together).


      Well SCV is set in 1607. The era of the sword was almost over at that point. In hindsight, we're running out of history for the SC series. A grand finale with every playable character in the entire series would be great.

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    • Well I remember one of the DEV's saying they want to go up to Soulcalibur IX, however that doesn't mean they have to have a few years time skip between the games from SCVI - SCIX. I mean, Soulcalibur II - IV was 1590 so SCVI - SCIX could be the same year, 1607. I personally think they won't go too far into the future though, maybe some time after 1610 will be the furthest they will go.

      Also, we must remember this is a video game so in the Soul universe the "sword era" might go on for many more years haha!

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      Well I remember one of the DEV's saying they want to go up to Soulcalibur IX, however that doesn't mean they have to have a few years time skip between the games from SCVI - SCIX. I mean, Soulcalibur II - IV was 1590 so SCVI - SCIX could be the same year, 1607. I personally think they won't go too far into the future though, maybe some time after 1610 will be the furthest they will go.

      Also, we must remember this is a video game so in the Soul universe the "sword era" might go on for many more years haha!


      Well Namco has officially said that Tekken is in the same universe as SC so eventually swords were rendered obsolete.

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    • Yeah I know, however Tekken is in modern times so obviously swords aren't used now :P (Except for Yoshimitsu of course). I'm just saying how it could be possible in the universe that swords could still be used up to the 1800's or something haha. So you can't really say the sword era is coming to an end by that point in time.

      However, like I previously said Project Soul probably won't make the in game year go that far in the future and will probably stick between 1607 - 1615 most probably (unless they reboot of course).

      ANYWAY: back on topic! What do you think they will do for SCVI and what year do you think it will be?

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      Yeah I know, however Tekken is in modern times so obviously swords aren't used now :P (Except for Yoshimitsu of course). I'm just saying how it could be possible in the universe that swords could still be used up to the 1800's or something haha. So you can't really say the sword era is coming to an end by that point in time.

      However, like I previously said Project Soul probably won't make the in game year go that far in the future and will probably stick between 1607 - 1615 most probably (unless they reboot of course).

      ANYWAY: back on topic! What do you think they will do for SCVI and what year do you think it will be?


      I think it should be revealed that at the end of SCV, Algol and Edge Master were able to utilize the energies of the Soul Swords to amplify their battle. The battle was so hard fought that Inferno and Elysium regained their strength and began possessing the King and Mentor. Meanwhile, Zasalmel has leanred of this and in yet another attempt to claim the swords, frees Inferno and Elysium from the Chaos and creates new bodies for them. This allows Inferno is become Nightmare once again, while Elysium becomes a shining Knight templar esque character of whom I cannot think of a name for right now. But Cassandra, Edge Master and Algol have also escaped the Chaos.

      Some of the Chaos's energy also escapes and is able to alter various things, including revitalizing some characters who are getting old or dying. Even dead characters are resurected As a result every character returns.

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    • it's been 84 years.....

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    • 84 years since what? Haha

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    • Since they've done something worth getting excited over, lol

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    • Oh ahahahah! Riiiigh :P

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    • I hope the guys (the attractive ones, anyway) have just as fanservice-y costumes as the girls.

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    • It would suit some male characters, but not all haha! I hope they do too though :p

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    • Depends, some people have complain about the males "showing a lot" of skin in SCV. I personally do not care if male or female characters show as much of skin as the devs want them too. Like Jasey said, it would suit some!

      I personally believe ZWEI showing more skin wouldn't be bad :3 He's pretty attractive, don't see why not!

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    • How much do you think the poll will affect the SCVI roster? They said things like "Project Soul would like to hear your voice for the future of Soulcalibur!" and "Your imput is very valuable to us and with your help we can make the future of Soulcalibur bright and hopeful." Does that basically confirm that it was made for SCVI?

      Since all the originals outranked their replacements, do you think this basically means they're locked in for the next game? I'd like to say that the Top 10 most voted characters should be locked in, with the Top 25 being safe bets. Talim and Taki were voted the most popular characters in the series, so I'm hoping that guarantees their chances.

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    • Tbh I really don't think the poll was made to completely choose the roster, it was most probably just for guidance. I do agree though, I think the Top 10 are certain to be in it. However, for the rest I think they will just chose who they want for story purposes, and it will most probably be the majority of classic characters and a few new ones (In my opinion they will keep Pyrrha, Viola and ZWEI).

      Anyway, like I was saying I don't think the Poll results will actually affect much about the new roster. For example, say if Nightmare ended up in the bottom 10? I bet they would still include him regardless. So I don't really think the Poll was that important, just a guide for the developers. Ether way, I will be happy with Sophitia, Cassandra, Pyrrha, Amy, Viola and Tira :)

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    • I'm hoping that if one of Sophitia's kids stays, it will be Pyrrha. I can see Patroklos getting written out of the story, due to how unpopular he is with the fanbase, and Namco even made fun of him on Facebook. Pyrrha, being an Alexandra girl (which Hoshino seems to be premoting as the stars since he went in charge), has a pretty good shot at making it in.

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    • Yeah I agree with you. Hoshino loves the Alexandra girls, and doesn't tend to like Patroklos much.. So if anything yeah, Pyrrha most probably has a high likelihood of returning!

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      Yeah I agree with you. Hoshino loves the Alexandra girls, and doesn't tend to like Patroklos much.. So if anything yeah, Pyrrha most probably has a high likelihood of returning!

      Even though Patroklos changed in the end? I think the fandom needs to rethink some things.

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    • Patroklos went through some of the worst, most forced "character development" I've ever seen. He killed his own sister after promising to save her, then had to have time reversed to give him another chance. That right there destroyed his already battered image throughout.

      The fandom has spoken. Just look at how low he placed on the poll, which is especially impressive considering he was supposed to be the "hero" of SCV.

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    • Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Patroklos went through some of the worst, most forced "character development" I've ever seen. He killed his own sister after promising to save her, then had to have time reversed to give him another chance. That right there destroyed his already battered image throughout.

      The fandom has spoken. Just look at how low he placed on the poll, which is especially impressive considering he was supposed to be the "hero" of SCV.


      He was possessed by Elysium. And when someone is possessed by something, they cannot control their body. I realized that instantly in story mode.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Patroklos went through some of the worst, most forced "character development" I've ever seen. He killed his own sister after promising to save her, then had to have time reversed to give him another chance. That right there destroyed his already battered image throughout.

      The fandom has spoken. Just look at how low he placed on the poll, which is especially impressive considering he was supposed to be the "hero" of SCV.


      He was possessed by Elysium. And when someone is possessed by something, they cannot control their body. I realized that instantly in story mode.

      He wasn't possessed per se, but he was most definitely under her influence, thus him killing Pyrrha was OOC. He even realizes this himself after doing so. None the less, his abrupt personality change was forced either way.

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    • LightningSakura wrote:
      Godzillavkk wrote:
      Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Patroklos went through some of the worst, most forced "character development" I've ever seen. He killed his own sister after promising to save her, then had to have time reversed to give him another chance. That right there destroyed his already battered image throughout.

      The fandom has spoken. Just look at how low he placed on the poll, which is especially impressive considering he was supposed to be the "hero" of SCV.


      He was possessed by Elysium. And when someone is possessed by something, they cannot control their body. I realized that instantly in story mode.
      He wasn't possessed per se, but he was most definitely under her influence, thus him killing Pyrrha was OOC. He even realizes this himself after doing so. None the less, his abrupt personality change was forced either way.


      People are easy to trick, sway and inluence. I've watched and read about people able to trick, sway or influence others into doing horrible things, sometimes with just their words. We humans are not perfect beings. Even Seigfried was under Soul Calibur's lies when he was using it. SCIV began showing signs that Soul Calibur is not such a good sword after all, SCV proves the sword is just as bad as it's counterpart and what better way to show that then by tricking someone into murdering their own sister by pretending to be their mother? I focused my rage on Elysium there, don't blame the puppet for the puppetmaster's crime. And if you were tricked or influenced into doing something aweful as soon as you figured it out you'd do whatever it takes to correct it.

      I saw the same human behavior and human flaws in SCV that I see in reality.

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    • Also lets not forget that Patroklos slaughtered countless innocents just because he thought they were malfested. Additionally, people who are actually malfested have glowing eyes, a visibly dark aura, and demon like attributes. An others, it should be obvious when someone's malfested. To him, it appears that a malfested was "anyone who looks ill".

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    • Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Also lets not forget that Patroklos slaughtered countless innocents just because he thought they were malfested. Additionally, people who are actually malfested have glowing eyes, a visibly dark aura, and demon like attributes. An others, it should be obvious when someone's malfested. To him, it appears that a malfested was "anyone who looks ill".


      The exact same things have happened in history. There were countless "holy warriors" who slew innocents. You can't put every modern value into a story set in 1607. And when he realized he was tricked by Nightmare, he stopped. And it's very easy to go completly xenophobic when you think a group of the same thing(Malfested) killed your mother. This is natural human behavior and something I accepted a long time ago.

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    • Only he didn't stop. He then did the bidding for Elysium (which should've been obvious that she was evil and not his mother, I mean, come on), and he ending up killing his own sister, and had to have time reserved to save her. This is why Patroklos was such a bad character. They had one chance to get us to like him as the protagonist, and they failed. When the hero is one of the least popular characters in the series, there's a problem.

      But if you want to talk about it more, let's take it somewhere else. This is derailing the topic here.

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    • Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Only he didn't stop. He then did the bidding for Elysium (which should've been obvious that she was evil and not his mother, I mean, come on), and he ending up killing his own sister, and had to have time reserved to save her. This is why Patroklos was such a bad character. They had one chance to get us to like him as the protagonist, and they failed. When the hero is one of the least popular characters in the series, there's a problem.

      But if you want to talk about it more, let's take it somewhere else. This is derailing the topic here.


      Where to?

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    • Make another topic about I suppose.

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    • Evil Cheese Wedge wrote:
      Make another topic about I suppose.


      Thanks. I'll spend some time thinking it over and planning what to type in it.

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    • I have a feeling that even though Patroklos is somewhat unpopular they will still put him in next games, and although I agree his development was forced I think he still has much potential, he just need some "revamp".. Regarding the other caracters and history, the whole Astral Chaos thing opens up thousands of possibilities, even characters that died could appear there, as "chaos" means the lack of order and laws, so anything could happen. Also, SCV proved that time travel is really possible, so I still have hopes of seeing a full host of characters, old and new, in the same game.

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    • Why do you think that? Even Namco made fun of him, which isn't a good sign. Surely they had to have noticed the overwhelmingly negative reception to his character, especially when he was announced for Lost Swords everyone I saw was like "NOOOOO!!!"

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    • I confess, I would like to see him return to see and know more about his relationship with Setsuka, which is one of my favorite characters. If she comes back for another game of course.

      Anyway, I think they've made him too important in SCV to just remove him from new games. I mean, the story of SCV revolve too strongly around the Alexandra brothers relationship and conflict. If they put Phyrra in the next game they will put Patroklos too, like they do with Siegfried and Nightmare. Only he definitively need a revamp in every aspect. I like to do a comparison between regular Patroklos and α Patroklos (post time-travel). The first is arrogant, annoying and everything else you can hate in a person and the second isn't that bad. Maybe it's just me, but I hate when characters that have potential to be awesome are made horribly and then they're discarded because nobody wants to work upon it and make improvements.

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    • The thing is, they had one chance to get people like him and accept him as the new protagonist of the series, and they failed. Since Namco/Project Soul wanted to know what we think of the characters for the "future of Soulcalibur", and the hero of SCV was nearly at the bottom, that probably sent them a message. While Pyrrha has received mixed to mildly positive fan reception and has her own fanbase, I have yet to see a sizable amount of people who actually like Patroklos (as a character, not just for his moveset).

      I think them putting him in LS might have been a way to see how people would react, because all I saw were complaints about his inclusion. Like I said before, Namco aren't oblivious to his negative reception, since they made fun of him on their Facebook page. Additionally, the reason why I can see Pyrrha returning but not Patroklos is because she's an Alexandra girl, who Hoshino wants to promote for advertising. I didn't see Patroklos much in advertisements after he was announced.

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    • I personally don't care what Project Soul does next, as long it's better than SC V I'll be happy.

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    • Highwayman Myth wrote:
      I personally don't care what Project Soul does next, as long it's better than SC V I'll be happy.


      I can put up with SCV, but I look forward to this.

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    • Why am I the only one who thinks that an emotionally swayed protagonist that has no idea what he is doing its perfect? It's actually pretty interesting.

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    • Pastro99 wrote:
      Why am I the only one who thinks that an emotionally swayed protagonist that has no idea what he is doing its perfect? It's actually pretty interesting.


      I'm with ya.

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    • I really would like a Soul Calibur VI.

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    • One thing I think should be explored in SCVI in terms of story is that, in terms of story is that the characters realize that their time is almost over. The age of the sword is almost over, the age of firearms is beginning. The heroes might be somewhat meloncolic on their journey's as they realize that if the Soul Swords are destroyed, nothing will stand in the way of the gun replacing the sword. In hindsight, SCVI could work as an "End of an Age" story.

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    • Well seems that Project Soul said they want to go up to Soulcalibur IX I doubt that Soulcalibur VI will be an "End of an Age" story, so I cant really see the characters being melancholy about their adventures. That is, if Project Soul do plan on continuing to number nine anyway.

      Plus, this is a fictional universe so maybe the era of swords doesn't end for a lot longer? Who knows?

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      Well seems that Project Soul said they want to go up to Soulcalibur IX I doubt that Soulcalibur VI will be an "End of an Age" story, so I cant really see the characters being melancholy about their adventures. That is, if Project Soul do plan on continuing to number nine anyway.

      Plus, this is a fictional universe so maybe the era of swords doesn't end for a lot longer? Who knows?


      I thought this type of story would be fitting for the 1600's, since at that time, the age of swords was ending and the age of guns was beginning. But I suppose they could find loopholes.

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    • I know what you were saying, but like I previously stated this is a fictional universe so maybe the era of swords doesn't end for a while? Although, if PS were planning something like that, but wanted to go to Soulcalibur IX, the time frame between Soulcalibur VI and Soulcalibur IX would probably be very short (like how Soulcalibur II - Soulcalibur IV is all 1590).

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    • JaseyJasee wrote:
      I know what you were saying, but like I previously stated this is a fictional universe so maybe the era of swords doesn't end for a while? Although, if PS were planning something like that, but wanted to go to Soulcalibur IX, the time frame between Soulcalibur VI and Soulcalibur IX would probably be very short (like how Soulcalibur II - Soulcalibur IV is all 1590).


      Possibly. If they want to end the series eventually, the final game should not just have the themes of an ending of an age, but every character returning.

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    • Seems like the game isn't dead (yet), but instead Bamco is being secretive about it...

      http://8wayrun.com/threads/hoshino-silenced-by-namco-news-from-harada.19279/

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    • Whoever runs the Official Soulcalibur Facebook page was replying to plenty of comments a while ago, hinting towards Soulcalibur VI (or some sort of future game) So it's odd that Hoshino cannot reply on Twitter...

      EDIT: Also, not to mention but the Soul series is certainly not dead! In fact it has never been more alive since Soulcalibur V compared to any other time in the entire series. Over the last three years (2012 - 2015) they have done loads with the Soul series: Lost Swords, Unbreakable Soul, SCII HD, Natsu in ProjectXZone 2, and Soulcalibur appeared in Outcasy Odyssey! That's a lot of content in the last three years. Usually they only release a main game and a year later a spin-off. People only think the series is dead because PS haven't been focusing on a sequel (which they probably have been working on one secretly).

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    • When I say dead, I meant people were really pessimistic since not even a slight hint was given. Also, yes indeed it is weird that an admin on Facebook has more power than the director.

      However, as said on 8WR, it might be because Bamco doesn't want SCVI to turn out like SCV, with Daishi telling things that in the end weren't even there (I know, the game was also rushed).

      Maybe the announcement of "something" was allowed, but maybe Hoshino isn't allowed to talk because they fear he'll let the cat out of the bag.

      The series in itself (lore-wise) is like Schrödinger's cat, neither dead nor alive, while indeed there are many spin-offs and cameos in other game. Just like the Harry Potter series (only example that comes to my mind): while there is a new movie from this universe to be released soon, the main storyline will never be touched again... Well, with SC spin-offs and cameo, we don't even get lore ideas (maybe a bit with Unbreakable Souls, but it's really cheap).

      I agree with you, they MUST have been working on something secretly (because a whole team just focusing on ecchi costumes is quite the waste of talent ^^).

      At any rate, I'd prefer an awesome Soul game in 2017 than a half-finished game like SCV was.

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    • JefferyDante wrote:
      When I say dead, I meant people were really pessimistic since not even a slight hint was given. Also, yes indeed it is weird that an admin on Facebook has more power than the director.

      However, as said on 8WR, it might be because Bamco doesn't want SCVI to turn out like SCV, with Daishi telling things that in the end weren't even there (I know, the game was also rushed).

      Maybe the announcement of "something" was allowed, but maybe Hoshino isn't allowed to talk because they fear he'll let the cat out of the bag.

      The series in itself (lore-wise) is like Schrödinger's cat, neither dead nor alive, while indeed there are many spin-offs and cameos in other game. Just like the Harry Potter series (only example that comes to my mind): while there is a new movie from this universe to be released soon, the main storyline will never be touched again... Well, with SC spin-offs and cameo, we don't even get lore ideas (maybe a bit with Unbreakable Souls, but it's really cheap).

      I agree with you, they MUST have been working on something secretly (because a whole team just focusing on ecchi costumes is quite the waste of talent ^^).

      At any rate, I'd prefer an awesome Soul game in 2017 than a half-finished game like SCV was.


      SCV could have been worse. At least it's versus mode was enjoyable.

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    • To be very honest, it was OK, even though I didn't really care about it since I was almost done with the wretched game.

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    • Spriggangirl wrote:
      To be very honest, it was OK, even though I didn't really care about it since I was almost done with the wretched game.


      There's worse out there. A LOT worse.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:

      Spriggangirl wrote:
      To be very honest, it was OK, even though I didn't really care about it since I was almost done with the wretched game.


      There's worse out there. A LOT worse.

      Hey, I don't blame you. It's sadly the truth you said, right there.

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    • Spriggangirl wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      Spriggangirl wrote:
      To be very honest, it was OK, even though I didn't really care about it since I was almost done with the wretched game.

      There's worse out there. A LOT worse.

      Hey, I don't blame you. It's sadly the truth you said, right there.


      Ride to Hell to me, is the worst game.

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    • very, very, very old and impossible hope, but maybe we will have the finished parts of what were meant to be in SCV ??? personally i enjoyed the game and i would like if that happened, even if it was just DLC! i doubt that will be their new announcement but, it would be nice if we had the rest of the game that was claimed to be unfinished/rushed ! I will be excited if we get SCVI, but i wonder what the story would be about? and what the character roster will look like? aaah, i am very excited now!

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    • ProudCrow wrote:
      very, very, very old and impossible hope, but maybe we will have the finished parts of what were meant to be in SCV ??? personally i enjoyed the game and i would like if that happened, even if it was just DLC! i doubt that will be their new announcement but, it would be nice if we had the rest of the game that was claimed to be unfinished/rushed ! I will be excited if we get SCVI, but i wonder what the story would be about? and what the character roster will look like? aaah, i am very excited now!


      Well in terms of story, Pyyrha is technically still malfested. And maybe as long as even the tiniest piece of Soul Edge lives in someone, Soul Edge can never truely be destroyed and will return. Neither Pyyrha or Patroklos is going to stand still about this less Pyyrha goes crazy again. Maybe Siegfried, Patroklos and Lexia(As Xiangua weilded Soul Calibur once so she desires to "pick up her mother's sword") will try to find a way to restore Soul Calibur, though Patroklos does this reluctantly because he might be the only one who knows of Soul Calibur's true nature. Siegfried never figured out the sword's nature as he was Soul Calibur's puppet in SC4. I hope Patroklos can warn Siegfried and Lexia about this before someone else becomes Soul Calibur's puppet.

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    • I'm personally hoping SCV's character creation system returns in SCVI.

      I know that Soul Calibur has had a character creation system since SCIII, but the one from SCV was the best in my opinion.

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    • 24.180.210.172 wrote:
      I'm personally hoping SCV's character creation system returns in SCVI.

      I know that Soul Calibur has had a character creation system since SCIII, but the one from SCV was the best in my opinion.


      Very true.

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    • I would actually be fairly happy if we saw with Soulcalibur what we saw with Mortal Kombat. A reboot that tells the story of the first 3 games. A lot of the new story they are putting out just isn't that great, and so few people remember the story of the first 3 games, since it was more of a PS2 era thing. If that story was retold with the power of modern consoles, it would be absolutely epic.

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    • That could be seen as copying MK.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote: That could be seen as copying MK.

      Well I mean, it's not like rolling the story from the past three games into one epic tale is an original idea. I just see it as a good way to bring back a classic story and refine it for a new generation.

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    • Dedmnwalkn88 wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote: That could be seen as copying MK.

      Well I mean, it's not like rolling the story from the past three games into one epic tale is an original idea. I just see it as a good way to bring back a classic story and refine it for a new generation.

      But, I don't think that's what the SC community as a whole wants. One of the problems people had with SCV was the singular story mode. Project Soul would do the wise thing and do what made SC so good in the first place. Individual story modes and the such.

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    • I still think that backtracking is fanservice, and all too often fanservice has ruined game franchises because the customers didn't want it to go foreward. I love the fact that most game titles DON'T have planned endings. I want to see where the characters will go, what's going to happen to them and what new challenges they'll face. Books, movies and TV shows follow it as well. You wouldn't like it Harry Potter had to find the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone in book 6, or if Indiana Jones had to look for the Ark of the Covenent in Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. If I want something from the past, I just put on an older game.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      I still think that backtracking is fanservice, and all too often fanservice has ruined game franchises because the customers didn't want it to go foreward. I love the fact that most game titles DON'T have planned endings. I want to see where the characters will go, what's going to happen to them and what new challenges they'll face. Books, movies and TV shows follow it as well. You wouldn't like it Harry Potter had to find the Philosopher's/Sorcerer's Stone in book 6, or if Indiana Jones had to look for the Ark of the Covenent in Temple of Doom or Last Crusade. If I want something from the past, I just put on an older game.

      It wouldn't be backtracking. SCV was an unfinished game with a singular story mode (something that SC has never done- and proven to be disliked). The series had progressed forward just fine with its previous format, so I'm not really seeing your argument. In case you hadn't noticed, the story modes of each inidividual character did not go necessarily with any other character's, which led to multiple ambiguous "endings." Your Harry Potter and Indiana Jones allusions don't fit your argument either, as they are not relevant to the idea you are trying to put forth. Your opinion is the minority here (maybe even JUST a personal idea of what should happen) as it definitely isn't something the community has expressed they wanted. From the various social media communities seen, the majority opinion is that they want something of a combination of SCII and SCIII.

      You also didn't give any examples as to how "backtracking" has ruined a franchise. In fact, I can show you the opposite is the case. Once something has been set and you make a drastic change to it, people tend to not like it. Look at the MegaMan series. MegaMan and MegaMan X were highly acclaimed. MegaMan Zero was also liked, but the MegaMan ZX series did almost exactly what SCV has done, and recieved disdain or annoyance from loyal MegaMan fans (let's not even talk about Mighty No. 9). It replaced familiar faces with new ones and put the original main characters on the side, or made them complimentary towards the new protagonists in an attempt to make them as major as the originals.

      Your argument is based on an assumption you've made because of personal opinion, but you need to look at the bigger picture. Sticking to what made something good isn't "fanservice" or "backtracking" or "selling out" (I'm aware you didn't say selling-out, but accusing someone of fanservice implies you think they are selling-out). Many game series have literally done the same thing for years upon years (Mario, Legend of Zelda, Street Fighter) and are highly successful.

      And yeah I wrote a three paragraph response.

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    • Pastro99 wrote:
      Why am I the only one who thinks that an emotionally swayed protagonist that has no idea what he is doing its perfect? It's actually pretty interesting.

      It's interesting when it's well written and not forced (Yun-seong, Siegfried). I don't even hate Patroklos, really. It's more like an annoyed general feeling towards him. I wish his character development wasn't forced or rushed. 

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    • That kind of development has more realism then the latter two. I've seen it in real life.

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    • LightningSakura wrote:

      It wouldn't be backtracking. SCV was an unfinished game with a singular story mode (something that SC has never done- and proven to be disliked). The series had progressed forward just fine with its previous format, so I'm not really seeing your argument. In case you hadn't noticed, the story modes of each inidividual character did not go necessarily with any other character's, which led to multiple ambiguous "endings." Your Harry Potter and Indiana Jones allusions don't fit your argument either, as they are not relevant to the idea you are trying to put forth. Your opinion is the minority here (maybe even JUST a personal idea of what should happen) as it definitely isn't something the community has expressed they wanted. From the various social media communities seen, the majority opinion is that they want something of a combination of SCII and SCIII.

      You also didn't give any examples as to how "backtracking" has ruined a franchise. In fact, I can show you the opposite is the case. Once something has been set and you make a drastic change to it, people tend to not like it. Look at the MegaMan series. MegaMan and MegaMan X were highly acclaimed. MegaMan Zero was also liked, but the MegaMan ZX series did almost exactly what SCV has done, and recieved disdain or annoyance from loyal MegaMan fans (let's not even talk about Mighty No. 9). It replaced familiar faces with new ones and put the original main characters on the side, or made them complimentary towards the new protagonists in an attempt to make them as major as the originals.

      Your argument is based on an assumption you've made because of personal opinion, but you need to look at the bigger picture. Sticking to what made something good isn't "fanservice" or "backtracking" or "selling out" (I'm aware you didn't say selling-out, but accusing someone of fanservice implies you think they are selling-out). Many game series have literally done the same thing for years upon years (Mario, Legend of Zelda, Street Fighter) and are highly successful.

      And yeah I wrote a three paragraph response.

      What I mean is, franchises need to evolve if they are to survive. There is a BIG danger is stay in a status quo, you can easily get trapped in a formula and be unable to progress. That's why I quit Mario and the other Nintendo games. They're trapped in formulas, unable to grow and evolve. It's sad but true, franchises must grow and evolve to survive. And fans just cannot see it.

      Everything changes, it's part of life. People grow up, get married, have kids, have friends and relatives who die, and they to will eventually die. Gamers change, so must the games. Now some changes are not for the best, but that does NOT mean change must stop. Old things must be taught new tricks.

      I don't want every new game in a series to just be the same game as last time, I want to see something new. It would be like if you played a game and it had the same characters and plots over and over again instead of expanding or continuing it.

      I can't believe people want that, that's not how life works. Now why do I mention a lot of realism in games? Because games are telling stories that rival those in books, tv and movies. And stories like that draw inspiration from real life. And I expect progression in stories like those, just like how real life progresses.

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    • Wow look at all this irrelevant and personal opinion. You can't argue against facts with opinions mate, that's just not how it works. You keep saying the same thing over and over, all of it opinions, even when faced with the fact of the matter....I.... am losing my already thin patience. Look, you can't speak for the entirety of the masses as a whole with nothing but personal opinion to back it up.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote: What I mean is, franchises need to evolve if they are to survive. There is a BIG danger is stay in a status quo, you can easily get trapped in a formula and be unable to progress. That's why I quit Mario and the other Nintendo games. They're trapped in formulas, unable to grow and evolve. It's sad but true, franchises must grow and evolve to survive. And fans just cannot see it.

      Everything changes, it's part of life. People grow up, get married, have kids, have friends and relatives who die, and they to will eventually die. Gamers change, so must the games. Now some changes are not for the best, but that does NOT mean change must stop. Old things must be taught new tricks.

      I don't want every new game in a series to just be the same game as last time, I want to see something new. It would be like if you played a game and it had the same characters and plots over and over again instead of expanding or continuing it.

      I can't believe people want that, that's not how life works. Now why do I mention a lot of realism in games? Because games are telling stories that rival those in books, tv and movies. And stories like that draw inspiration from real life. And I expect progression in stories like those, just like how real life progresses.

      I'm sure you've heard of the saying, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."

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    • Hyper Zergling wrote: I'm sure you've heard of the saying, "If it's not broken, don't fix it."


      That's not how life works.

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    • LightningSakura wrote: Wow look at all this irrelevant and personal opinion. You can't argue against facts with opinions mate, that's just not how it works. You keep saying the same thing over and over, all of it opinions, even when faced with the fact of the matter....I.... am losing my already thin patience. Look, you can't speak for the entirety of the masses as a whole with nothing but personal opinion to back it up.

      You aren't using facts either. A fact is something scientifically indisputable. An opinion is not.

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    • If people wanted REAL LIFE they wouldn't play a fictional video game about a demon sword that possesses people and eats souls

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    • Me: "I'm sure you've heard of the saying, 'If it's not broken, don't fix it.'"

      Godzillavkk: "That's not how life works."

      LightningSakura: "If people wanted REAL LIFE they wouldn't play a fictional video game about a demon sword that possesses people and eats souls"

      Conversation of the century.

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    • All story telling must have some form of realism to it, regardless of what kind of story it is. Learned that in English class. Otherwise it would conveluted, illogical and make no sense even by it's standards. You wouldn't want characters who don't behave the way real people do.

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    • Not....using.... facts....where? Nothing in my response was my opinion.

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    • What you said were other people's opinions. But no matter how many opinions match, they still don't make anything a fact. The majority of Germans in pre-WW2 Germany all agreed that Hitler would be a wonderful leader. Look where that lead them. First thing you learn about critical thinking in college, don't fully trust majority opinion.

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    • Okay, sir, let me stop your reaching right there. Let me break this down. The facts I used were of a statistical basis. Opinions do make facts when grouped together like I did before. The fact is, not many people share your opinion, if any. The fact is, the system in which a lot of games are made works. The fact is, most people didn't like SCV. The fact is, it was because of the changes made to it that differed from previous SC games. Those are facts. That I literally already said. Facts. All fact.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote: What you said were other people's opinions. But no matter how many opinions match, they still don't make anything a fact. The majority of Germans in pre-WW2 Germany all agreed that Hitler would be a wonderful leader. Look where that lead them. First thing you learn about critical thinking in college, don't fully trust majority opinion.

      Your composure is commendable, I'll give you that.

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    • LightningSakura wrote:
      Okay, sir, let me stop your reaching right there. Let me break this down. The facts I used were of a statistical basis. Opinions do make facts when grouped together like I did before. The fact is, not many people share your opinion, if any. The fact is, the system in which a lot of games are made works. The fact is, most people didn't like SCV. The fact is, it was because of the changes made to it that differed from previous SC games. Those are facts. That I literally already said. Facts. All fact.


      Opinions, no matter the form are opinions. And did you not read what I said about majority opinion leading to disaster? If not, perhaps this will enlighten you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heCSbA8w57A.

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    • "Opinions are opinions no matter the form, also here is my opinion presented as a fact because I am the exception to my rule, hahah :)"


      Why do I even bother. It's impossible to argue with someone who insists that their opinion is actually some form of fact, and then tries to write off a fact of statistics as opinion in a pathetic attempt of counter argument. It's the Patroklos thread all over again.

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    • Well this escalated beyond what I intended.

      I will point out that I simply would like to see this series revived so that it can not only be appreciated by long time fans of the Soul series, but newer and younger players as well. From there, it may be easier to move forward with the series, rather than try to continue with an aging foundation.

      Please save the Hitler references for an argument that actually matters.

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    • LightningSakura wrote:
      "Opinions are opinions no matter the form, also here is my opinion presented as a fact because I am the exception to my rule, hahah :)"


      Why do I even bother. It's impossible to argue with someone who insists that their opinion is actually some form of fact, and then tries to write off a fact of statistics as opinion in a pathetic attempt of counter argument. It's the Patroklos thread all over again.


      You mean just like what you are doing? Now Dedmnwalkin88 has made a decent point, and I suggest this argument ends before one or both of us get in trouble. So will you agree to disagree with me, or will you keep arguing and end up in trouble?

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:

      LightningSakura wrote:
      "Opinions are opinions no matter the form, also here is my opinion presented as a fact because I am the exception to my rule, hahah :)"


      Why do I even bother. It's impossible to argue with someone who insists that their opinion is actually some form of fact, and then tries to write off a fact of statistics as opinion in a pathetic attempt of counter argument. It's the Patroklos thread all over again.


      You mean just like what you are doing? Now Dedmnwalkin88 has made a decent point, and I suggest this argument ends before one or both of us get in trouble. So will you agree to disagree with me, or will you keep arguing and end up in trouble?

      I don't know, you always seem to have the need to be the one with the last post.

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    • Naw I don't think Soul Calibur is as evil as Soul Edge, so Taki's lying.

      And besides Elysium is Sophitia's evil alter ego. So Sophitia may have been reserected. But Zasalamel did brought Elysium back just like you said.

      So what do you think? Should Sophitia try to do what Siegfried did?

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    • Deadlyblossom wrote:
      Naw I don't think Soul Calibur is as evil as Soul Edge, so Taki's lying.

      And besides Elysium is Sophitia's evil alter ego. So Sophitia may have been reserected. But Zasalamel did brought Elysium back just like you said.

      So what do you think? Should Sophitia try to do what Siegfried did?

      I'm afraid you're mistaken. Elysium IS Soul Calibur. And like Inferno, she is like the Ring of Power from The Lord of the Rings. She's tricksy and tells people like Siegfried and Patroklos "I'm a mighty weapon, I'm a tool to reshape the world and don't you look like the best guy to weild me." But like the Ring, Soul Calibur's promises are lies. It has no intention absolving someone like Siegfried or restoring Pyyrha's humanity for Patroklos. It just wants to get people comfortable so it can possess them. Sophitia is dead sadly. Elysium took the form of Sophitia to gain Patroklos's trust, so she could possesses him. And yet everyone gives him all the crap, when Elysium is the guilty one. Don't punish the puppet for the puppetmasters crimes. Even Siegfried was swayed by Elysium's lies. That's why I think Soul Calibur should take an animated armor form like Nightmare in SC3 and SC4. Unless the Soul Swords can find someone else to deceive. Besides I think by this point Siegfried and Patroklos know better then to touch either Soul Sword.

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    • Okay. So you're saying Soul Edge is really Inferno and Soul Calibur is really Elysium right. So you said they are like the Ring of Power from the Lord of the Rings did you?

      So you're saying Inferno and Elysium are like Sauron did you?

      That reminds me of death battle of Guts vs Nightmare one of the hosts said something about campareing Soul Edge to the Ring of Power.

      Oh about Sohpitia I think that's only in both her children's POV that she's dead.

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    • Deadlyblossom wrote:
      Okay. So you're saying Soul Edge is really Inferno and Soul Calibur is really Elysium right. So you said they are like the Ring of Power from the Lord of the Rings did you?

      So you're saying Inferno and Elysium are like Sauron did you?

      That reminds me of death battle of Guts vs Nightmare one of the hosts said something about campareing Soul Edge to the Ring of Power.

      Oh about Sohpitia I think that's only in both her children's POV that she's dead.


      I'd welcome Guts as a guest character for a SC game even though I'm not a fan of berserk. Other guest characters I'd tolerate are Kirito and Asuna from SAO, Inuyasha, Arthas from WOW and Jon Snow from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones

      You are right about the Soul Swords being similar to the Ring and Sauron from Lord of the Rings. But the One Ring is not the first fantasys object that corrupts people or misleads them.

      But if Sophitia is alive, where has she been all this time? I imagine Patroklos and Pyyrha would both be very angry after the "You're alive! I'm so happy to see you!" stuff. They'd probably ask "Where have you been all this time!? We were the pawns of the Soul Swords, we barely broke free of them. We even fought eachother." Needless to say if Sophitia is still alive(Which I still doubt) she has a lot of explaining to do to her son and daughter after all the trouble they went through.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:

      Deadlyblossom wrote:
      Okay. So you're saying Soul Edge is really Inferno and Soul Calibur is really Elysium right. So you said they are like the Ring of Power from the Lord of the Rings did you?

      So you're saying Inferno and Elysium are like Sauron did you?

      That reminds me of death battle of Guts vs Nightmare one of the hosts said something about campareing Soul Edge to the Ring of Power.

      Oh about Sohpitia I think that's only in both her children's POV that she's dead.


      I'd welcome Guts as a guest character for a SC game even though I'm not a fan of berserk. Other guest characters I'd tolerate are Kirito and Asuna from SAO, Inuyasha, Arthas from WOW and Jon Snow from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones

      You are right about the Soul Swords being similar to the Ring and Sauron from Lord of the Rings. But the One Ring is not the first fantasys object that corrupts people or misleads them.

      But if Sophitia is alive, where has she been all this time? I imagine Patroklos and Pyyrha would both be very angry after the "You're alive! I'm so happy to see you!" stuff. They'd probably ask "Where have you been all this time!? We were the pawns of the Soul Swords, we barely broke free of them. We even fought eachother." Needless to say if Sophitia is still alive(Which I still doubt) she has a lot of explaining to do to her son and daughter after all the trouble they went through.

      Guts fits Mortal Kombat more than he fits Soul Calibur.

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    • But MK is fist fighting. SC is sword fighting.

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    • Godzillavkk, that is what I want to hear because I agree with you there. But why welcome Guts as guest character? I want to see Syaoran Li from Card Captor Sakura. He's another shorty due to that he's 10 years old like Yoda.

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    • Ooo, good ones. Interestingly, the Star Wars guest characters is what introduced me to SC.

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    • Hyper Zergling wrote:

      Godzillavkk wrote:

      Deadlyblossom wrote:
      Okay. So you're saying Soul Edge is really Inferno and Soul Calibur is really Elysium right. So you said they are like the Ring of Power from the Lord of the Rings did you?

      So you're saying Inferno and Elysium are like Sauron did you?

      That reminds me of death battle of Guts vs Nightmare one of the hosts said something about campareing Soul Edge to the Ring of Power.

      Oh about Sohpitia I think that's only in both her children's POV that she's dead.


      I'd welcome Guts as a guest character for a SC game even though I'm not a fan of berserk. Other guest characters I'd tolerate are Kirito and Asuna from SAO, Inuyasha, Arthas from WOW and Jon Snow from A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones

      You are right about the Soul Swords being similar to the Ring and Sauron from Lord of the Rings. But the One Ring is not the first fantasys object that corrupts people or misleads them.

      But if Sophitia is alive, where has she been all this time? I imagine Patroklos and Pyyrha would both be very angry after the "You're alive! I'm so happy to see you!" stuff. They'd probably ask "Where have you been all this time!? We were the pawns of the Soul Swords, we barely broke free of them. We even fought eachother." Needless to say if Sophitia is still alive(Which I still doubt) she has a lot of explaining to do to her son and daughter after all the trouble they went through.

      Guts fits Mortal Kombat more than he fits Soul Calibur.

      Tell that to Kenshi, Scorpion, Mileena, and even Kratos who was a guest character. Berserk is gory, so Guts would fit MK.

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    • Their weapons are usually used in special moves. The rest is punching and kicking. I've played MK.

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    • Godzillavkk wrote:
      Ooo, good ones. Interestingly, the Star Wars guest characters is what introduced me to SC.

      I got introduced thanks to Link and Spawn.

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    • Here are some ideas for guest character quotes

      Kirito

      Match start: This is no game. I have more XP then you think. You're the level boss?

      Win: Victory, proceeding to next level. Why waste you're life in a game of death? You're weapon is not sufficent

      Asuna

      Match start: I will not be trapped in virtual reality again! I see that you are neither player nor boss. I will safeguard innocents from you.

      Win: My skills surpass yours. I warned you. Games are becomming more and more deadly.

      Inuyasha

      Match Start: Ready to taste my Tetsaiga? Come on coward! You challenge me?

      Win: Not a worthy foe. Another foe defeated. I always figured I was the best.

      Arthas

      Match: Frostmourne hungers. Bow before the one true King! Living or dead, you will serve me.

      Victory: Another soul for Frostmourne. Now I shall raise you for the Scourge! Now, you will serve the true King.

      Jon Snow

      What house are you with? For House Stark! I will protect Westeros.

      Victory: I will give you a proper cremation. The man who passes the sentence should swing the sword. The Night's Watch could use a warrior like you.

      Syaoran Li

      Don't underestimate me. You hold the cards! I will retrieve the cards!

      I warned you. You may be bigger, but I was faster. Dang, no cards here.

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    • Okay. But here's my quotes for Syaoran.

      Begin Match: Give me those Clow Cards you have or else!

      Victory 1: Darn no card here.

      Victory 2: Man. If only that darn Sakura hadn't taken the book!

      Victory 3: You're too big but I'm faster.

      Victory 4: If only Melin had came with me.

      Meeting someone who's Japanese: Grrrr. This is a pain.

      Defeated someone who's Japanese: I hate your Nationality!

      Meeting Mitsurugi

      Misturugi: So you're gonna challenge me huh? Then you better not disappouint me little boy.

      Syaoran: You are so going down.

      Mitsurugi Victorious: That's it? That was boring.

      Syaoran Victorious: So you don't have the Clow Cards ether.

      Meeting Nightmare:

      Syaoran: A nasty monster! Fine! I'll think of you as darn Sakura Kinomoto!

      Nightmare: Where do you come from child? And who the hell is this Sakura Kinomoto?

      Nightmare Victorious: You got a fine soul to devior!

      Syaoran Victorious: THAT WOULD BE YOU SAKURA!

      So he should know that Soul Edge and Soul Calibur are like the 2 Gundams Wing Zero and Epyon and he must destroy them both risk killing Phyrra and Patroklos in order to get home. How That?

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    • I edit mine too. So okay shall we get back on topic on how dangerous both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur turn out to be?

      Oh and I already started a topic on ideas of guest character else where so why don't you check it out?

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    • If we're returning to the bad nature of the Soul Swords, what caused you to think that Elysium is really Sophetia?

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    • Isn't it oblivious that you said Soul Edge and Soul Calibur are as dangerous as the Ring of Power?

      Well I have a theory and supesion about this. If Soul Edge turned out to be Inferno then when he got Siegfried and he became Nightmare, that's thing whole point that the clam Sophitia died she may have suffer the same fate Siegfried did and she Elysium got her and it's thanks to Soul Edge. If you include Soul Calibur then I'm gonna ask 1 question. Is Soul Calibur really a hidden shard of Soul Edge?

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    • Yes it is true. Algol created Soul Calibur from a shard of Soul Edge with the sole purpose of destroying Soul Edge. But in doing so, Soul Calibur gained Soul Edge's manpulative nature and view of life. Anyone who weilds a Soul Sword is not actually weilding the sword. The sword is weilding them. Siegfried was the ultimate Patsy of both Soul Swords. So far, only two characters have been able to master the Soul Swords and tell them "No, you're not weilding me, I'm weilding you!" Those characters were Algol and Patroklos. Algol created the Soul Swords so he knows them inside out. Patroklos, after learning of Soul Calibur's nature the hard way was able to resist it by putting his love for his sister over his hatred of malfested. And yet because of this everyone accuses them of having an icestous relationship. I've meet adults who live with their adult siblings, and NONE of them were in incestous relationships. This is Soul Calibur not Game of Thrones.

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    • I never said it's Game of Thrones because I never seen it. But if what you say is fact then what the hell is Algol thinking?

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    • Well he figured the only weapon that could destroy Soul Edge was itself.

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    • So I see. So Algol thinks that if Soul Edge destroys itself non of this ever happened. So I guess I learned this kind of lesson. Algol may created Soul Calibur to destroy Soul Edge but the truth is he fused them into himself.

      And If Algol did create both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur then thus Inferno and Eylsium were born.

      But I'm wondering if you remember this. Zasalamel tried to fused them together into himself but in doing so the results are disastsastrous and he became an undead monster called Abyss so if you played Soul Calibur 3 you knew that already did you?

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    • I've only played 4 and 5. But I've researched Edge through 3.

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    • Well I played 2, 3, 4, and 5 but never played Soul Blade and Soul Calibur 1 but I'm saving up for XBox One so I can download Soul Calibur 1 and 2 HD online but keeping Gamecube version for Link and getting Soul Blade and Broken Destiny and Soul Calibur Legends. So I can understand the story better.

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    • Conversation is going a bit off topic to the actual topic of this thread, so please one of you open a new thread (or post on the others message wall) if you plan on continuing the conversation, thanks :)

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    • You're welcome :)

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    • Someone posted designs they did. Could these be SCVI designs?

      http://www.passionrepublic.com/en/work.html

      • Kilik

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      • Natsu

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      • Nightmare (or a different Soul Edge character since it has a different weapon)

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      • Sophitia

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      Seeing Natsu is quite worrying if true. Hoshino should know better than to have Taki still replaced, considering the backlashed they faced over replacing her and the fact that Taki placed 2nd on the poll. I hope she's not continuing in this game as a replacement.

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    • Evil Cheese Wedge wrote: Someone posted designs they did. Could these be SCVI designs?

      http://www.passionrepublic.com/en/work.html

      • Kilik

      Cp83w98UEAEecyN-1-

      • Natsu

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      • Nightmare (or a different Soul Edge character since it has a different weapon)

      Cp84akxUsAEdDyY-1-

      • Sophitia

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      Seeing Natsu is quite worrying if true. Hoshino should know better than to have Taki still replaced, considering the backlashed they faced over replacing her and the fact that Taki placed 2nd on the poll. I hope she's not continuing in this game as a replacement.

      Is this legit art from Project Soul?

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    • It's from Passion Republic, a company based in Malaysia who has done artwork for games such as Dark Souls 3, Mortal Kombat X, Batman: Arkham Knight, and Gears of War 4. They were likely outsourced to do some artwork for them, as Namco has said in the past that they've outsourced a lot when developing Tekken.

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    • OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Edit: I feel that Natsu would be like a second version of Taki. Like how Cassandra and Sopithia are. I would have been quite upset if Natsu was gone.

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    • Yeah, you can tell from the picture that they changed her weapons and style. She's using different swords and holding them differently. I guess this is done to differentiate her from Taki, and so that Taki can return with her classic fighting style.

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    • I got some bad news. Apparently these are just very well made concept art by an unrelated company. They said it was "purely an internal efforts and portfolio creation, and non related to the actual game franchise."

      Dammit. I thought they were outsourced to do the artwork for the game. Looks like these are just extremely well made fakes that they created for some reason I can't explain. Sorry if I got your hopes up.

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    • Damn you're faster than me to post my own news! xD Thanks for the heads-up, ECW :)

      Also, these are not "fakes", but rather "non official" :)

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    • Could still be real artwork for the next game. I remember things got out about Crash Bandicoot and Sony always denied any work being done on it, this could simply be the same situation. They released the pictures and Project Soul or Namco have told them to say that statement. Who knows right now?

      I'm going to still run with the idea that they are real, considering how Sony kept denying Crash Bandicoot and the accidental slip ups in an interview by someone else went to deny work on Crash Bandicoot too.

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    • Maybe, maybe not. I'd be better to imagine they are not official rather than go all hyped over nothing. A nice surprise is better than a bad one.

      If they were under any NDA, they might simply have not answered, juste like Namco does atm: avoiding rather than answering. The fact they clearly state their non-implication is a breach of NDA (you cannot lie, deceive, reveal, or leak), so IMHO it's more likely they are not official..

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    • The art looks good. Though I am a but nervous about Sophetia appearing. If there's a good in-univers explanation for her return I'll praise it. If not, I will have to make fan-service accusations. As for Natsu, characters in the SC series do age, even pre V games made that clear. And I've said it once and I'll say it again, there is a danger to using the same old cast over and over again. If you focus too much on customer satisfaction, you can easily get trapped in a status quo, and your work can never grow or evolve. You can never try new things or be imaginative. Mortal Kombat knows this, MK X released many successor characters, and established that the older ones in universe were getting older, slower, and eventually will have to retire. Meaning that eventually, long time favorites like Kano, Sonya, Johnny Cage, Kenshi, Jaxx, and maybe even Scorpion will be retired and succeeded by Cassie Cage, Takeda, Kung-Jin, Jaquei Briggs, and Kano's son.

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    • @JefferyDante: Toys for Bob (I think that's the name of the company) who make the toys for Skylanders stated in an interview that they're happy to be working on Crash Bandicoot again, however later they stated that they were "misinformed" and they're actually not working on Crash Bandicoot.. Come some months later and Crash Bandicoot is actually in Skylanders..

      Hence why I still think they're real. I doubt they would just randomly release them for portfolio, and they would still need permission of Project Soul to do so. I still think they're real, even if they say it's just for portfolio.

      EDIT: Also not to mention that the original post they made did not state that they were for portfolio. Look:

      SophitiaPR

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    • Your positivity is much appreciated, but I prefer not to expect anything and be pleasantly surprised.

      Your example is actually an "accident", they weren't supposed to talk about it, yet they did, they quickly withdrew. However here, it doesn't look like an accident. If these are the official designs, there are 2 options: either they CAN show them (but why say they aren't official?), or they CANNOT (then why not take them off the website if it's a breach of NDA?). It's more probable the designs aren't official. Also, their official designs for MKX, DS3, Breakdown, etc. come with a trademark, while the SC designs don't (there is a line under the drawings, "An internal effort and portfolio that is non related to the actual game", even though the use of "the actual game" leaves me sceptical) so it's most probably a fanart in that case.

      But to follow your instinct, take it for what it's woth, I sent a thank-you mail saying that they should show the arts to Namco, and they say "we will" (though I dunno if it's for the "show them to Namco" and "keep on the great work").

      EDIT: they probably added the sentence after my email. Weird indeed.

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    • Well thank you, I'm just trying to stay positive. This is the first positive thing that has happened in the Soul series for a while.

      Yeah I understand what you're saying, it could simply be just for portfolio and that's it. However if you see my edited comment I mentioned how originally they did not state that the images were for portfolio only, which leads me to believe they have been told to claim them as so.. Still who knows?

      I think the designs are really good, and I really hope something comes out of them at least.

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    • Wait and see I suppose ;) I do hope I'm wrong on that one :D

      The designs are sweet indeed, though I'm not fond of Insectmare. But well, as long as the veterans are back (gimme my Raph back!), the "successors" edited (new styles!), and no playable random button, I'm ok with the designs :D

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    • This got me hyped for nothing. I took notice of Natsu using different weapons/style -- two ninja swords rather than dual kodachi -- which if it were true would hold the implication that Taki is returning with the classic style while Natsu would change to accommodate her. I don't know how they came up with that since they apparently never contact Namco. The other two concepts I saw also had her using different weapons.

      Anyways, I still hope we get a new Soulcalibur soon. I'm not worried about not seeing old faces again, Hoshino clearly prefers them over the new. If Jr versions stick around, I can see their styles changing to accommodate the returning veterans.

      Let's not forget that Soulcalibur is hyping something on Facebook, and they wouldn't be doing this if they had nothing to build up to.

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    • I do find it a weird though that Nightmare looks more like a moth monster as opposed to a blac knight.

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    • What about Siegfried? Is he gonna get a new look as well?

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    • We'll have to wait.

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    • Okay. Oh I hope Talim comes back.

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    • I hope her personality is greatly expanded. Despite Talims popularity, I think she's very bland.

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    • Since the pictures have nothing to do with the actual game, I actually feel relieved. If real, it would've carried the implication of taking place after SCV. With all the negative stigma associated with it, I don't think they could continue directly from SCV without adding more fuel to the fire. 

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    • But she's the quickest character with Elbow Blade and deadly. And there's popularity of the romance pairing between her and guest character Link.

      I was upset that she's not in 5 so I created a custom character out of her except about a bad dream a friend of mine has that she's new host of Soul Edge that she became Tornado and I got his premission to do that because he didn't bother with because he popauly hates character creation in 3 , 4, 5 and BD and COTS.

      And I have her style Siegfried and gave Soul Calibur (Hidden) and I customize the color to make it look like Elbow Blade stained in the blood that turns out to be of her own family in witch evently she killed them.

      Sorry it's just character creation you know I know that we must stay on topic but JaseyJesee you think there will be character creation in Soul Calibur 6 as well?

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    • If they avert going from 5 it'll look too much like fanservice. That's the easy way.

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    • Unless they reboot the series (which I doubt) they most probably will continue from Soulcalibur V, which I would like and think it would be the most logical way to continue the story. If they decide to go with the time-travel type of route like on Lost Swords using Astral Chaos, which in turn could retcon some stuff and bring back some old favourites to go along with the new. Pleasing everyone hopefully. Who knows though?

      As for the artwork, I still there is a chance they are real and Passion Republic are just trying to cover themselves.

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    • It's not been the first time a promotion has revealed itself, only to be revealed as fake. There was a fake trailer for The Force Awakens that was released that had people talking before the real one came. There was even a fake trailer for the Dark Knight Rises that made it look like Hugo Strange was going to be in the movie, and that he would be played by Robin Williams rest his soul. But that also had peope talking until the real trailer came out.

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    • I never denied the fact that they could be fake, and I understand that fake pictures, trailers etc are made I don't live under a rock haha.

      However, I'm just saying there is a possibility that they are real for the next installment and Passion Republic are just trying to cover themselves because they revealed them without permission or too soon. Taking them down completely would be too obvious that they are for a new installment and if Project Soul don't want to reveal it yet they may have told Passion Republic to claim them to be portfolio who knows?

      I'm just hopeful that they are genuine for the next installment or will at least lead to something new.. There's nothing wrong with being positive :)

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    • Good thinking.

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    • I doubt it's real. If it were, they would've denied it by not answering the questions, as opposed to lying about it.

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    • We'll see if these artworks are official or not ^^ But the way they answered (quickly, no "hesitation", no real damage control) would rather tip the scale in favour of the artworks being unofficial. But hey, it's Bamco, they've always treated us like shit so they might once again take the piss out of us. Wait and see...

      About rebooting the series, it probably won't happen, but there's a chance we end up walking through Astral Chaos to temper with the timeline. After all, Cassandra is there, she could do something to save her sister, or maybe the Soul Embrace happened one more time etc.

      The fans were unforgiving concerning the SCV timeline, so I doubt they'll be happy to see SCVI around the same era, with the same characters being out because they're "too old" while some don't age for a reason.

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    • I wouldn't be happy if they took that route. Change is needed for a franchise to survive.

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    • Not always. Daishi changing everything is what almost killed the series, and the fans have made it clear they don't like change.

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    • Then the series can never grow or evolve. It'll be stuck in a never ending status quo doing the same stuff over and over again. This is why I quit playing Nintendo and moved on to other titles. No matter how many new powerups or new graphics they had, it was always the same things over and over again. You wouldn't want Harry Potter to look for the Philosopher's Stone in every book would you? You wouldn't want characters to learn the same lessons over and over again would you? I want to see where characters will go, what's going to happen to them, what new challenges they'll face and what new characters will come in.

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    • CoD, Fifa, Tekken... All these games are repetitive yet thriving :D

      The game should evolve indeed, it did most of the time, yet with SCV it also devolved, and quite fast if we consider LS... The evolution is really bad here with SC. Hopefully SC6 will be an evolution, if not, I'd rather see the game die during its prime than become what it is/was becoming: simplified movesets, mimics over and over again, new characters that are actually new skins for old characters, no story, cash-grab...

      I want to see the series evolve, but within what made it what it is, not to renew everything just for the sake of renewing.

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    • Well CoD has a new story every game and new characters, in fact most CoD changes its cast in nearly every game and has new maps and new guns everytime, Fifa changes players to match real time player changes and alters stadiums when real life stadiums are alterned. Tekken also gets new characters and has a new story. And most of the new characters were successors of characters I don't play as often.

      I'm sorry but I must place my views ahead of what a majority fanbase views because I find that all to often majority opinion leads to something bad. Learned that in college. And I've seen movies and read books with similar stories to SCV, and no one fusses about them.

      Retconning SCV will create SCIV all over again, and is renewing for the sake of renewing.

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    • Every character in Soulcalibur has a new story every game (well a continuation of their own story), new maps are added every game, new characters are added every game, the mechanics are changed every game, the fighting styles/combos/moves are changed every game so the fact you think that Soulcalibur isn't evolving is just confusing and shows that you're lacking observation on the story of Soulcalibur and the games themselves.

      I personally don't think Soulcalibur V should be retconned, however I do think they should have some means of bringing some of the classic characters back whilst keeping some new ones and introducing some others too. To me, the only way I can see them bringing some of our beloved characters back would be through Astral Chaos so they can't have the excuse of characters being "too old" like Taki. Using Astral Chaos does not generally mean the events of Soulcalibur V will be retconned but that is a possibility. Ether way I would like them to continue from SCV but find a way to bring classic characters back also. They could easily continue the story after Soulcalibur V and have missing characters from the past travel to the present timeline through Astral Choas, or simply have aged characters or find some other means to have them unaged if that's really a big deal for a 40 year old woman to be in Soulcalibur.

      Anyway, Soulcalibur is actually evolving and I really don't know how you can't see that. JefferyDante is right though, Soulcalibur V did devolve. It stripped movesets down, made them a lot simpler (granted they done that to introduce the game to new people), removed some of the core features from the previous games, removed a lot of content from the previous games (museum, arcade ending etc), had a single short story and much more. It was a huge downgrade from Soulcalibur IV which in my opinion was a downgrade from Soulcalibur III. I admit I actually like some of the new characters and I love the critical edges too, I think they worked well in the game. However, if you think that the series will evolve more if they follow the path of Soulcalibur V then the series will surely die. Lost Swords has almost killed the series off in it's self from trying to follow the mechanics from Soulcalibur V, it introduced some interesting things but I personally don't think that is where the series should go.

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    • You've unknowingly addressed the rivalry between old and new franchise fans and their opposing views of what routes game franchises should take. Olders like things staying the same, newers want change, but the olders are heard more often and consider themselves the "True" fans and often bully newcommers who want change.

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    • I like the fact that you had no reply to the topic at hand, the fact that you think the series is not evolving and with me explaining how it has and does continue to evolve you had no reply...

      If you're going to assume that I'm an older fan then you're wrong. I started playing Soulcalibur in 2012 starting with Soulcalibur IV then I went onto SCV, SCII, SCI, SB and then SCIII. So I am not an older fan who thinks the old games are better just because I have always played them because that is untrue. In my opinion they are better, fan reception, critical reception, sales etc all show that the older games are better than SCV. I have also pointed out multiple times how I like the new characters (Pyrrha, Viola, Zwei. I also prefer Natsu over Taki and Lexia over her Mother) and I am all for the series continuing to evolve and move forward. However you saying that the series does not evolve and rehashes the same thing over and over is false because it does not do that.

      Also your idea of the series moving forward would probably kill the series. If you want the series to continue without any of the removed characters returning the series will get an even worse reaction from it's fans (the customers, the people who buy the game!). Sales would probably be really bad and the series would probably end due to lack of sales. I respect your opinion and how you think the series should move forward but personally and critically that would kill the series. Like I said I hope they do keep some of the new characters on board but I do want some of the removed characters to return also, I want a game that can cater to both new and old fans and not just one portion of fans. Thus trying to keep both happy. I'm not a "All the new characters need to go, SCV was terrible, classic characters rule" type of person I actually want to see the series evolve further with both new and old characters.

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    • Well all to often i encounter people with the exact opposite. I never take chances online.

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    • "all to often majority opinion leads to something bad"

      This is actually quite false. There's a difference between a majority of stupid people and a majority of fans.

      While some hardcore fans might defend their own (sh*tty) point of view ("Kilik should marry Ivy because blah blah"), most of the time people come with a compromise that should be followed. It is well known that gaming companies actually barely know what's best for their game. I'm really active within the GW2 community and often ANet offered changes that were actually downgrades of the gameplay we had, and as results their sales were quite catastrophic. Now they (tend to) listen to us a bit more, but our opinion, the opinion from the majority of players, was good. Of course it doesn't happen all the time with every game, but still. Just because someone doesn't like the majority opinion doesn't mean this opinion is stupid.

      And Jasey is right: the Soul series has different stories within one storyline, just like Tekken. We don't need brand new characters and adventures with each game. As you said Godzillavkk, concerning Harry Potter: he doesn't want to find the philosopher's stone throughout 7 books, but he is fighting against Voldemort throughout the series.

      But if you compare the HP books to the Soul series: it's as if in HP1 Voldemort was trying to find the stone to come back to life and in HP2 they all live in France and Voldemort is selling sweets to everyone. We got the same impression from SCIV to SCV: it was completely random.

      I'm all in favour of new characters, but not just for the new faces: just because they add new characters doesn't mean they should cut existing characters, and even less they shouldn't give the newcomers old characters' movesets just for the sake of having the same gameplay. I don't want aPat with that style, I want Setsuka, I don't want PO, I want Sophitia, etc. (of course, let's not talk about mimics that just appear to fill the roster) These successors should have their own movesets rather than just being a new skin for the older characters.

      My point is that I want the story to advance, I want it to become better, but SCV was barely half of the game we should have had (1/4 storyline, 1/2 movesets, 1/2 content as disc-locked...), and that I cannot forgive. Daishi took the essence out of SC, reduced it to trash, and Bamco keeps on treating us like crap. Many of us grew up with the series, characters are what make the series.

      If they want to add new characters, fine, I'm all for it! But only if it means we won't get copies, 3 mimics, and "successors" with the charisma of a wet slice of bread.

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    • I agree, but no JefferyDante PO replaces Link Phyrra Omega replaces Sophitia and normal Phyrra did Cassandra.

      And what do you have against mimics? I like Olcadan more. And you can give custom characters the mimic's styles I made Dexter from Dexter's Lab and for his inventions and brains and fomulas and all the mech power as his weapons I give him Elysium while I did Blossom but with Kilik as mimic.

      And I don't follow Harry Potter but one question why does the character himself want a piece of this Voldemort so damn bad? Did he did something to Harry in the past?

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    • Deadlyblossom wrote: I agree, but no JefferyDante PO replaces Link Phyrra Omega replaces Sophitia and normal Phyrra did Cassandra.

      Pat replaces no one really his style is unique but the way he fights caters more to how Cassandra fought. Pyrrha also doesn't really replace anyone, she has many of her Mother's moves but the way she uses them in combos are unique. Omega is Sophitia with a few Cassandra moves and Alpha is Setsuka.

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    • I know that Alpha is Setsuka and got used to that when using Setsuka. So I made a custom character out of Blade from Marvel and gave him the style due to something named Moon and Blossom.

      And what about Z.W.E.I? Did somebody create a character out of any chosen child from Digimon and gave him or her Z.W.E.I style for Digimon partner?

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    • PO is Pyrrha Omega ;) Pattycakes is Patroklos' nickname :)

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    • And I hate mimics simply because they are humanized random buttons. If I want a random style, I click the random button, I don't need a character for it, and even less THREE characters.

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    • What style would any of you give to Sophetia's children? Also, Dante, stupid people can also be fans of something. And I still don't fully trust majority opinion. And there is no "we" in any fandom because fandoms are not hive minds.

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    • Patroklos' sword and shield style was quite good, so this one should remain.

      Pyrrha was quite ok I guess, though she could also be more defense oriented (quite obivous with her stance).

      They aren't the problem, the problem is that Bamco burnt 2 slots for aPat and PO and gave them random styles ("let's say aPat studied with Setsuka so he got her style, and let's gave PO her mother's style!" "but she doesn't knowher true family, so she probably doesn't know how her mother fights" "like I care, make it happen")

      You're right not to fully trust majorities; but again there's a difference between "people following one person's idea blindly" and "people having a similar idea and defending it".

      SCV was announced, we were people following Daishi's idea blindly. When it was released, we all had the similar idea that the game was really bad, that they should bring back the oldies (along with newcomers), etc. We had hope and were disappointed (and spit on if we consider LS), now we're fighting to bring back the game we all love(d) to its former glory. That's just 2 examples of majority opinions that prove us both right ;)

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    • There is no "We" in any fandoms. Because fandoms are not hive minds.

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    • Yeah I got it, no need to repeat yourself since you're still not completely right :)

      Fandoms are like cultures, and a culture is considered a hive mind. If you're thinking of a collective consciousness, of course a fandom isn't, nothing human related is a collective consciousness.

      If you wanna play on words, I am not part of a fandom, I'm not a fan per se, I just appreciate the Soul series, and I've appreciated it for a long time.

      Therefore, if I compare my own opinion with someone else's and they correspond, I can use the pronoun "we", since, you know, it's a plural. Never have I mentionned that everyone who love(d) SC thinks the same, just that some people, aka "we", have ideas in common.

      But suits you if you wanna change my "we"s with "I and many other players", the idea is the same.

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    • That fits.

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    • Then Siegfried should have gave Soul Calibur to Lexia instead. Why? Because her mother Xianghua was the ori weilder of the weapon right?

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    • Just because Xianghua wielded it doesn't mean Leixia should have too. It's not passed through blood, only those deemed worthy enough can wield it. Apparently Pat was worthy enough.

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    • "Worthy" in the case of Soul Calibur means someone who will mindlessly listen to it's lies. Remember, Soul Calibur is just as evil as Soul Edge and even Siegfried was being manipulated in SC 3 and 4. I personally think Soul Calibur should gain an animated armor form like Nightmare.

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    • Godzillavkk is right, it's all about having the best puppet. An animated form would be a great idea! I really liked Elysium, but I prefer Sophitia as she is so... Maybe she could be similar to Sophitia but with some twists? Cracks in her skin revealing blue energy, my imagination is running crazy thanks to you, Godzillavkk xD

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    • Yeah. But how can Soul Calibur and Soul Edge return though? Soul Calibur was made from a shard of Soul Edge so the only thing that can harm Soul Edge is itself. The same is probably for Soul Calibur. But Patroklos and Pyyrha stabbed Soul Calibur with Soul Edge and Soul Edge was badly damaged from their battle. So it seems both swords were destroyed in a single blow since both were used. I have an idea though, Algol and Edge Master are trapped in the Astrael Chaos, what if they tried harnessing the left over energy from the swords to try and escape, but accidently ressurected Inferno and Elysium. Inferno gains another set of animated armor becomming Nightmare again while Elysium takes on an armored form as well and both start clashing against eachother. Heroes and villains old and new once again take up their weapons to find and destroy the Soul Swords.

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    • Considering Taki placed second on the popularity poll and won the tournament, keeping her out still would be dumb.

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    • That's a good idea, I was personally thinking of Soul Embrace. Everything is possible so far!

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    • I just hope Aeon/Lizardman returns. Who was first on the list?

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    • Godzillavkk are you talking about the crystal armor Siegfried wore in Soul Calibur 4 that is Elysium or the form in witch Sophitia suffered the same fate he did? Or is it a form of her?

      Oh the claim Algol and Edge Master trapped in Astral Chaos and tried to escape but accidently ressurected Inferno and Elysium? What the hell kind of thoery is that about the to the 2 mimics being brought back in the process?

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    • Elysium is a shapeshifter. She takes a form that her puppet is comfortable with.

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    • Shapeshifter? Is that what you also call the mimics? That reminds me of Shinnok from Mortal Kombat. Now he mimics the character but Shang Tsuang shapeshifts to somebody.

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    • Sorta.

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    • I'd like Aeon to come back as a human character, alongside Lizardman (because, you know, Patty Cakes and aPat are two different characters), that could bring some diversity.

      What he meant by shapeshifter is that Elysium chose Sophitia's form to control Patty Cakes. If she were to control Kilik, she might have taken the form of Xianliang.

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    • I think Elysium shall stay in Sophitia possibly for the rest of her life. She will stay like if Hilde is fighting her own self.

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    • I think Elysium should take an armored form, I think by this point, everyone know she can't be trusted.

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    • Are you asking your own self only what would happen if the Nazis recruted Inferno and Elysium at the same time?

      Well this reminds me of the IJ movies. Ain't you told not to open Pandora's Box. Yep I'm talking about the Ark and same goes with the Holy Grail. They were killed by the power the sought. I saw the top ten movie villians killed by the power they sought.

      Sorry I was getting out of hand on the 2 swords here.

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    • I think throwing Nazi's in the game is stretching it, unless it's a joke character. But it is true that those who seek the Soul Swords often learn the hard way that they are not toys. It's the nature of the game. Few know of the swords true nature. In fact it might be possible that Siegfried still is unaware of Soul Caliburs true nature and that he was also a puppet in SC 3 and 4. That's why I think Patroklos needs to return at some point. Because someone has to warn those who don't know of Soul Caliburs nature not to touch the sword and since he figured out Soul Caliburs real nature and Siegfried may not have, who better a person?

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    • Taki also knows the dangers of both swords, you don't have to have experienced the power of them to know the dangers. Personally I think bringing Pat back to explain the dangers would be un-needed seems that there are already characters who know the dangers anyway and thus could explain the dangers and/or seek the swords out to try and destroy them.

      As for Elysium herself I'd rather not see her return in Sophitia form as that only makes sense for Pat or Pyrrha. Instead I agree that Soul Calibur should also possess some armour or be human-like/angelic character but have cracks in her skin with light shining through like JefferyDante mentioned. I personally like the latter better, as long as she got a unique style too and not be a mimic character again.

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    • Well, at least there are now more characters who know of Soul Caliburs true nature.

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    • As for Siegfried being a puppet I personally don't think he was a puppet in Soulcalibur IV ether (he didn't wield Soul Calibur in SCIII) he wanted to atone for his sins from wielding Soul Edge and becoming Nightmare, he was willing to die alongside Nightmare as long as that meant he could atone for his sins and that Soul Edge would be destroyed. So I personally don't think Siegfried was under any control, except for maybe Soulcalibur IV's ending (SCV's intro) where it looked like he became possessed when his eyes shined crystal blue.

      Also on the other subject I think Cassandra could also give warnings about the true nature of Soul Calibur, and if Sophitia returns maybe Pat could tell her about what happened and how Soul Calibur manipulated him to kill Pyrrha so that could lead to Sophitia wanting to destroy Soul Calibur along with Soul Edge which could lead to interesting story seems that Sophitia is supposed to work for the Gods.

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    • Well is SCIV, Siegfried's story told him that Soul Calibur was whispering things in his mind, telling him, "Kill yourself after Soul Edge's destruction and you'll atone for your sins." Why would Soul Calibur want Siegfried dead after Soul Edge's destruction? So he'd never figure out what Soul Calibur really wants. But it still would be tricky to find a good in universe reason for Sophetia's return. But if they do it right, I smell one big happy family reunion coming up, and a whole family team fighting against the Soul Swords.

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    • Okay. Maybe everyone that's good guy will be argueing. Don't you think? But is that one reason why Zasalamel mixed the 2 swords into his body to become Abyss?

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    • Soul Calibur didn't need to control Siegfried, as Siegfried was already pursuing SC's purpose: destroy SE and letting SC be the only Soul sword. Siegfried would sacrifice himself to do so, while Patty Cakes just wanna be a hero, guess SC also gotta consume souls in a way ^^

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    • Sacrifice? But Siegfried is still around so check out this from You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrQmao-G5yQ

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    • I didn't say he sacrificed himself, I said he wouldn't mind dying while trying to destroy Soul Edge. That's what Soul Calibur wants: a puppet, and so does Soul Edge.

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    • Okay look maybe both swords messed Siegfried as did Sophitia did they?

      Maybe that what caused Sophitia's kids to try to kill each other but accused of have incestus relationship right?

      As they already said, The Moonlight is but a warning.

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    • Deadlyblossom wrote:
      Okay look maybe both swords messed up Siegfried as did Sophitia did they?

      Maybe that what caused Sophitia's kids to try to kill each other but accused of have incestus relationship right?

      As they already said, The Moonlight is but a warning.


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    • Siegfried's only around because Soul Calibur's power drained at the end of 4, saving him from being crystalized. And without it's influence, he found the will to live again. My guess is that Spul Calibur controls it's puppets differently and if they are seperated from it's influence they can think clearly again. But I think at this point, Siegfried and Patroklos realize that Soul Calibur is no holy sword.

      As I've said before, Soul Calibur wants it's puppet dead after Soul Edge's destruction because of the puppet figured out they were being used they could turn the tables. Had Soul Calibur's power not drained, Siegfrieds SCIV ending would have been canon and the whole world would be one giant crystal. And had Edge Master not been in the Astrael Chaos SCV's story would have ended there. Thank goodness neither of those happened.

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    • You're right SC5's story should have ended there. So the best tip is do not stand up for Both Phyrra and Patroklos. They cannot be trusted because they killed a lot more innocent people than Siegfried did when being Nightmare.

      So I think I want to find out myself when getting Soul Blade and Soul Calibur 1 and get back 4 & 5 to see if the 2 swords are really as evil as they cracked up to be.

      Man I'm gonna have wild dreams about Dexter the boy genius that Dee Dee is not older sister but real mother all along when he got his hand on Soul Calibur having Eylsium's style when I found the truth of the 2 swords.

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    • I'm sorry, but only this can describe that last comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

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    • I was only kidding and what kind of game show is that when the host say "May God have mercy on your soul".

      Listen Dexter is just an example of being messed up by Soul Calibur.

      I accept that you're but I'm only kidding. I'm just trying to figure that if Soul Calibur is a hidden fragment of Soul Edge.

      I mean when a character is freed from the grip of Soul Edge his or her body and DNA and soul inside will be messed up right? Well in the intro of Soul Calibur 3 when Siegfried is walking in the forest his right arm is throbing and the personality of Nightmare is trying to resuvice right?

      Okay just give me some time to understand the Soul Calibur story and we'll talk.

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    • The story does take a while to understand. BTW, who is the Dexter you keep talking about? There's no SC character with that name.

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    • True but you ever seen Dexter's Lab on Cartoon Netowrk? That's the Dexter I'm talking about.

      So I was hopeing for character creation in SC6 so I can make Dexter on there.

      Yes you can create characters out of ones from other media including Dexter himself and Blossom both from CN universe.

      Oh and I understand that the story takes a while to understand.

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    • Oh. Strange choice for a guest character.

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    • What? You never used character creation mode?

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    • Of course I've used it.

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    • That's right, Soul Calibur isn't any better than Soul Edge. In the end, both swords want total control over the planet: they use different ways, the primitive one for SE and the manipulative one for SC (though SE/GRaph (lol) Dumas kinda used manipulation on Patroklos).

      Let's destroy both Soul swords! :D

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    • That is weird. Okay you Godzillavkk. So what character did you create did make them out of ones from other media or your own. Did you play COTS mode? I have I have beaten it twice with the knight and uses Soul of Siegfried more often and my weapon is Soul Calibur. And the character I made is Yu-Gi-Oh's Kastara Jounouchi (or Joey Wheeler as the US calls him).

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    • I mostly made original characters.

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    • This thread has gotten really off-topic.

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    • I can lock the thread or delete the off-topic comments. What do you think?

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    • I think delete some and tell them to move it to their message walls or make new Thread. News about new game and anything SC related should be talked about on here, along with some specuation.

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    • Close it, its kinda long now. We can make a new thread when an actual announcment happens.

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    • That's true. So, yeah, close it.

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